When I hear the name Luc Besson, I think of movies such as La femme Nikita or The Professional. Add into this Bruce Willis, who's name stands side by side with the word action and you think to yourself "we got something great here!" especially of you turn your brain off (most of it, and more then usual) and pay your ticket to see explosions, senseless beatings and shootings, and last we forget action. Unfortunately it is not so: everyone walks in thinking action packed and comes out screaming. I wonder if some people confused the movie teather for a fashion show, while the clothes of Jean-Paul Gaultier scrolled in front of them.
This movie is mostly built on the hype of the media. I hate Siskel & Herbert. They gave this movie two tumbs up so everyone follows what they say like sheep. I could show them crap, and I bet I would still get two thumbs up. David Sheenan calls it the "Die Hard in the 23rd Century". Too bad that in Die Hard a lot of stuff happens, and Bruce looks cute without that silly blonde hair. Stephen Schaefer, of the Boston Herald calls this the Star Wars of the 90's!" Wait a minute. I though ID4 was the Star Wars of the 90's and now you are changing your mind again? George Lucas in 1976 did better special effects then what Besson did in the (end of the) 90's!
Apparently this story was an original concept of Luc Besson when he was 15. Cute story, most probably stolen in parts from the comics of the belgian writer Herge`. The way the environment looked pretty futuristic, and a bit depressing (just look at Bruce's apartment). For those that don't know what the story is about, it's about saving the world. This ball of flame is coming to earth to destroy life in the universe, and only by taking the four elements (water, air, earth and fire) plus a fifth element, can a weapon of life and purity destroy all evil. The 5th Element, a perfect, pure being is a model, Mila Jovovich, which plays the part of this almost innocent childish alien. Apparently she can read as fast as Data, and learn Karate-chop moves by watching TV. Must be that triple DNA strand of hers...
The humor left me a bit wondering as well. Bruce arrives at the airport in Heaven (that's what the place is called) and a woman says: "Mr. Willis?"
"No," he answers, "Mr. Dallas".
Had me on the floor laughing there.
Seriously.
What's with the Star Wars jokes as well? A woman resembling a walking closet that was supposed to look like Princess Leia, and at the end, David, the Priest's assistant, while he yells, "Yeaah." He's holding a saber-like light.
The actors were good. Bruce Willis with his usual cool "I don't care" attitude. I wonder if it's because he was a former military officer that he can speak English so well and drive a cab. Since when cabbies speak english?
Mila Jovovich, although I wanted to slap her on the face more than once, did manage to reach that childish like state, and her yabbering fooled me into thinking that yeah "perhaps this is an alien broad, cloned from outta space". Just leaves me wondering how she can read le Anglais. Ian Holm, the priest had his funny moments, although if he originally was supposed to save the world, he also was pretty clueless. Chris Tucker.. what the hell did they do with this guy? Why did he have to be some sort of freak jumping around Bruce? After a while he stopped being funny, and that didn't take long. Luke Perry here shows is great ability of being such an amazing actor. I can't say anything else or I think I will harm myself.
Not even The Island of Dr. Mureau left me twiching in my seat. At least there, for as crappy the budget was (and the movie itself) something happened. I wanted to strip naked and run accross the movie theater. I found myself screaming "I wanna get out! Please stop!". In the last 40 seconds, which last half an hour, and the ball of flame is about to hit Earth, Bruce is having a hard time telling the alien that he loves her. That was dragged on for too long. I heard the people sitting behind me yelling "Come'on! Kiss her so we can go home!".
Colin claimed that if he took the $8.50 he spent on the ticket, went to the Greenwood race track, and bet on the horse with the lowest odds and he lost, the money would've been better invested.
Top 5 things said over and over in "The 5th Element":
5 "I'm saving the world" (just about everyone)
4 "Oh my God! Oh my God!" (Christ Tucker while on acid)
3 "Lilo" (Willis and Mila)
2 "She's perfect." (Everyone else again)
1 "Haziz, light!" (The Nutty Professor with Luke Perry)
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well i have to say, your pathetic critisism, sheds abit of light on the prioreties that dominate your life... the fact that you can sit behind your blaring computer screen and critisize actors and directors who exhibit more skill while taking a shit than your futile attemps to exhibit any knowledge on the subject of critical analysis, is slightly deppresing, dont quit your day job... oh wait
"well i have to say, your pathetic critisism, sheds abit of light on the prioreties that dominate your life..."
It does?
How come whenever someone has to make some sort of come back to show their disapproval of something, they always have to bring in the degree of life one has? Do you have anything a little more original to say?
And since you took the time to read my drivel and even leave a comment, does that shed "abit" of light about the "prioreties" that dominate your life?
"the fact that you can sit behind your blaring computer screen"
Instead of normally standing behind it...
"and critisize actors and directors who exhibit more skill while taking a shit than your futile attemps to exhibit any knowledge"
As opposed to your futile attempts to exhibit any ability to write...
"on the subject of critical analysis,"
Critical analysis means that you would provide something constructive. This would allow the person for whom the criticism is meant for to improve.
While I am more than guilty in writing a rant about a movie I strongly disliked without really providing anything constructive--as if that would make the movie better all of a sudden-- it is quite ironic that you're accusing me of the same crime you're guilty of with your comment.
Please learn the meaning of the words you plan on using before doing so.
"is slightly deppresing, dont quit your day job... oh wait"
Depressing? My, you take movies a touch too seriously. Perhaps you should revise your life "prioreties" just "abit"?
leo
I personally have no problems with you not liking the movie. Some do, some don't- I'm only going to see it because Mila is in it and it's gotten awesome reviews(with the exception of you).
I only have to say: Grow up. You are an adult, are you not? If somebody wants to post a "childish" comment disagreeing with your opinion, what gives you the right to insult and degrade that person for speaking out the exact same way you did in your review?
So keep reviewing, and please, grow up.
Hey, since this had nothing to do with me, can I speak out and degrade the unhappy idiot with low self esteem* who thinks one needs a special "right" to speak one's opinions without sugar coating? Or would that make me less a-dolt than her?
*= Population statistics are greatly behind me on this assumption, even though nothing she said entailed it; WHICH IS PRECISELY WHY one can feel quite justified in lashing out arbitrairliy: odds are you are going to hit someone who deserves it.
<3 REVSCRJ
He does have a right to be angry at the person for making comments; but it only makes him look completely immature and honestly, kind of pathetic. I'm sure that I look the same way by writing this, but whatever; if i'm a pathetic idiot, at least i'm one admitting it :)
And you may feel that I'm an idiot, but what does that have to do with my self esteem?
"He... [is] ...angry ...it only makes him look completely immature and honestly, kind of pathetic."
Sooooo you would prefer a world of heads-down-dont-support- your-truths world? If you dont defend truth it gets buried by idiocy.
"I'm sure that I look the same way by writing this,"
If you base this on me saying that "idiot with low self esteem" comment I made you should have continued on to the end of that segment (precisely 1 character further actually) where you'd have noted a "*" to signify a fotenote where I said "even though nothing she said entailed it".
Ie: the statement was actually a broadly generalized one about humanity and how it is difficult to throw a rock and not hit a selfdepricating dolt (or a selfabsorbed monster) and really wasnt a comment about you... though... I'd brush up on them thar english skilz.
"if i'm a pathetic idiot, at least i'm one admitting it"
Which is admirable (though you should try not to be one)
>And you may feel that I'm an idiot,
Dont know you well enough yet. Odds say you are, but thats just numbers.
<3
REVSCRJ
There is a simple solution to name calling, insults, and idiots... just say, "I'm rubber, you're glue, whatever you say bounces off me and sticks to you :-P."
If this doesn't make the idiots run out to figure out first hand what rubber is, chances are they'll be dumbfounded and have no idea what to say. Try it. I probally will.
O yes, almost forgot about my people comment. People (now this is a generalization) generally fall into three classes.
1) Idiots. These people are the type who try oh so hard to make funny comments or come backs to somehting they would never be able to write themselves. They should just be ignored or dealt with severly.
2)Hippocrits. These people love to comment on how this person "has no life" or how that person "shuld get out more". They say this when in fact they have sunk themselves lower than the point they tried to degrate the writer to. Best of all, they seldom realize it.
Before somebody points out I'm being hippocritical, I'm really not because I have not said that they need a life, I am simply pointing out the flaw in thier logic.
3) Intelligent people. These people are rare, but are great for shutting up (or provoking for thier own amusement) people #'s 1 and 2.
What's great about these people are that their "witty come backs" are actually witty. They know what to say and how to say it.
There is actually a fourth type of people, but I have decided they fall under intelligent. These are funny people. What they say, although funny (plese excuse the redundancy), witty and intelligent, is irrelevant to what the article is about. Often times even the comments. None the less, funny.
I think I had a point to all of this. Oh well, I'll remember later.
(SIGH). Had to be Leo. Reminds me of those bratty little boys in Powerpuff Girls that think everything sucks.
Don't you ever wonder...
What will Leo put down and criticize next?
will it be God? his mom? or... Even... HIMSELF?? The one and only perfect human being in the universe???!!!
I can see it now...
Leo Sucks by Leo
Hasn't there ever been a time in your life where you thought everything just sucked and you didn't have the will to live?? Well, here's the solution! Write articles on how everything that exists in this universe and other dimensions suck. It's so exciting, oh, and did I mention, excitement sucks too, ya know. It's so pitiful and corny to get excited. Why should people get excited? That's for dweebs and people who have no life. Everything should be the way I WANT IT TO BE!!! THAT'S THE ONLY RIGHT WAY!!! But, then again, I, myself, suck too, so. Anyways......
and so on and so on. That's how all his articles are.
Leo Sucks by Leo
You're more than welcome, if you'd like :)
You've read our submission guidelines, have you not?
Write articles on how everything that exists in this universe and other dimensions suck.
Welcome to Capital of Nasty, Gokugirl :)
leo
Gokugirl826, I do beleive you happen to fall under catagory # 2. Yes, I do beleive so.
For the sake of saying more than two sentances I will say that Gokugirl826 has way too much time on his hands. So a pip-pip-cherio to all, and a thank you goes out to all those who hate anime.
Don't we all, Smitty-Boy?
???
SB: For the sake of saying more than two sentances I will say that Gokugirl826 has way too much time on his hands. So a pip-pip-cherio to all, and a thank you goes out to all those who hate anime.
Translation: I suck because I don't think everything sucks, so I shouldn't disagree or post here.
I know you don't want me to post. Say it straight up, then!!
Oh and a thank you goes out to those who love anime.
Not Lilo, just a quick correction
2)Hippocrits. These people love to comment on how this person "has no life" or how that person "shuld get out more". They say this when in fact they have sunk themselves lower than the point they tried to degrate the writer to. Best of all, they seldom realize it.
Sounds like a foot fungus for a Hippopotamus, unless this person meant "Hypocrites". I spell things wrong too...but I have an excuse, I'm most likely dyslexic ^_^...or maybe I just type too fast. Wait...I'm being hippocritical right now! Sorry.
Gokugirl, I multi-task. This means I do more than one thing at a time. Efficiency is key.
Also, KittD, I'd like to asketh you a question. Do you honestly think you could come anywhere as close to being comprehensive as I did if you slept for one hour two days ago and have been running on coffee and pixi stix since?
I highly doubt that you could. So I'm sorry i spelled hypocrits wrong. I was, and still am tired, so I tend to spell words the way they sound.
"SB: For the sake of saying more than two sentances I will say that Gokugirl826 has way too much time on his hands. So a pip-pip-cherio to all, and a thank you goes out to all those who hate anime.
Translation: I suck because I don't think everything sucks, so I shouldn't disagree or post here."
When did I say things sucked? And don't look at me in that tone of voice!
"Sounds like a foot fungus for a Hippopotamus, unless this person meant "Hypocrites". I spell things wrong too...but I have an excuse, I'm most likely dyslexic ^_^...or maybe I just type too fast. Wait...I'm being hippocritical right now! Sorry."
You are just so damn clever! Too bad you aren't dyslexic though.
Wait...I'm being hippocritical right now! Sorry. Using my own coffee fueld ranting's poor spelling against me. You are just an evil-frikin'-genuis! I consent to you. You are the true master. I bow to your Budda-nature.
However, I think the majority of people will agree that although some anime is good, it should all be hated to spite people like you Gokuperson.
With much love I say good day.
Subject: Can't think of a clever title
By: Smitty-boy
Also, KittD, I'd like to asketh you a question. Do you honestly think you could come anywhere as close to being comprehensive as I did if you slept for one hour two days ago and have been running on coffee and pixi stix since?
I highly doubt that you could. So I'm sorry i spelled hypocrits wrong. I was, and still am tired, so I tend to spell words the way they sound.
I tease a lot of people. And one thing you have NO idea how my life is or my sleeping habits. I make a lot of tired rants- the one you are getting so bent up about was one of them and the Sailor Moon one was another.
You are just so damn clever! Too bad you aren't dyslexic though.
How exactly would you know? There are different forms of dyslexia.
t...I'm being hippocritical right now! Sorry. Using my own coffee fueld ranting's poor spelling against me. You are just an evil-frikin'-genuis! I consent to you. You are the true master. I bow to your Budda-nature.
I wasn't using your own spelling against you as a flame, you seem very over dramatic. I never said your coffee filled rant was stupid nor did I insult your intelligence (if thats how you feel then sorry). Everyone spells things like it sounds cause they either don't want to spell check, tired, or just don't know the word. I make mistakes in post too. If someone points it out and you feel a need to make a flame or wit remark back just think "this person doesn't know me and we will never meet, so its pointless to argue"
Only reason I'm replying cause you took things way over. I was just point something out.
Ok, so what kind of a person am I, huh, Smitty-Boy??
Let's hear it.
KittD, I'm glad things have been cleared up. I don't think you neccesarily insulted my intelligence, I think I just took thngs a little too seriously. Perhaps I was being over dramatic. It's all in the past now and perhaps we could "tag team" or something in the future on an ignoramus and use our intelligence for a good cause. Right now I'm pointing my finger at Gukogirl. As for dyslexia, I did not know there were diferent kinds. I thought it just caused a person to mix up words and/or letters. I'll be sure to inform myself on such things before I start any battles from now on.
Now, Gokugirl, you are a hypocrit. I've told you this. Now answer my quesiton from before, "when did I say things sucked?"
Although I've answered your question, I'm not sure if you were trying to imply that I am a hypocrit. I hope you weren't. I say things in jest. You however might be serious and that would just be mean.
AHA! I've figured it out! You're a mean and bitter person aren't u? I shoud have realized it before but now I'm on to your game...
Smitty-boy
KittD, I'm glad things have been cleared up. I don't think you neccesarily insulted my intelligence, I think I just took thngs a little too seriously. Perhaps I was being over dramatic. It's all in the past now and perhaps we could "tag team" or something in the future on an ignoramus and use our intelligence for a good cause.
Okay, glad ta hear it ^_^ even though I think my reply was rude XD, eh just how I am. I've read a lot of post by Goku...I mostly just read and ignore.
(SIGH) God, man. When the hell did I say YOU thought everything sucked? I was talking to Leo, but as usual, every idiot has to butt in while Leo sits back and doesn't say anything. I know he's special, but come on, I think he can defend himself. Did you read my mini article, "Leo sucks by Leo"? If you think I'm a hyppocrit, too bad, I think you are one too. And I know you were trying to send a message with that "too much time on her hands" thing. In other words, I should have better things to do than arguing here with you people and disagreeing with you, right? Jason's the only one around here that I argue with who isn't a moron.
>Jason's the only one
>around here that I argue >with who isn't a moron.
[rev hangs head in defeat
and joins friends in watching "Jason X"]
<3
REVSCRJ
In fact, you wanna know something? If there's one thing I learned from Jason, it's how to develop a sense of security, which you, Smitty Boy, obviously don't have. Everytime I diss Leo, some moron always comes in talking so much bullcrap that it's not even funny. It seems to hurt you more than anyone else that I diss Leo, you and revshfksjfddf. Dos Babosos.
Leo may think everything sucks, but whenever I diss him, he takes it easy and even compliments me sometimes. He doesn't even shoot back or anything. Instead, morons like you and revsjdlskjssdjks always have to say something, like if I was dissing you instead of Leo.
Well, at least SOMEONE around here gets the picture.
Damn that was a lame movie.
>It seems to hurt you more than anyone
>else that I diss Leo, you and >revshfksjfddf.
Of course.
Dont you have any friends? Is it not like that with you and yours? If it isnt, you have my condolences.
>Dos Babosos.
Nice bouncy sound to that.
<3 REVSCRJ
Well, well. Unless revklfjsjdsdkfj is speaking for himself, if Smitty here agrees with revdjslkjl, then he's the biggest hyppocrit around here. (In other words, if all people should hate anime to spite people like me, then all people should hate Leo to spite people like him. He's got too much time on his hands to defend Leo.)
Unfortunately, Jason got out of the forum, unless he's under a different name, and he really was the best arguer to me. He disagreed with me without defending Leo, at least that's what it looked like to me. He mentioned that he was the "devil's advocate" like maybe Leo's messenger or something, but to me it looked like he was defending himself, and when I first posted in the Anime Sucks! forum, there I was talking to everybody, but here, I was only talking to Leo.
See, it's ok for him to defend Leo, but I can't express my opinions or anything, like Jason did. Jason was speaking for himself mostly, even if it looked like he was defending Leo.
"Subject: No one who disagrees should post.
By: Gokugirl826 Time: May 14, 2003 3:10 AM CDT/CEST 1580
SB: For the sake of saying more than two sentances I will say that Gokugirl826 has way too much time on his hands. So a pip-pip-cherio to all, and a thank you goes out to all those who hate anime.
Translation: I suck because I don't think everything sucks, so I shouldn't disagree or post here.
I know you don't want me to post. Say it straight up, then!!
Oh and a thank you goes out to those who love anime."
I do beleive that's when you said I think everything sucks. Now granted, my life isn't peachy right now, but I always look oon the bright side of life. And that's a good song for anyone who hasn't seen Monty Python's Life of Brian.
>but as usual, every idiot has to butt in
Now I sure hope you weren't talking about me. Apparently, I can't figure out who you're talking about.
>If you think I'm a hyppocrit, too bad, I think you are one too.
We are all entitled to our thoughts.
> And I know you were trying to send a message with that "too much time on her hands" thing.
Really? That day is kind of fuzzy in my memory, so I can't sy for sure what I meant.
>In other words, I should have better things to do than arguing here with you people and disagreeing with you, right?
You're words, not mine.
> If there's one thing I learned from Jason, it's how to develop a sense of security, which you, Smitty Boy, obviously don't have.
You're right! Who stole my blankey!? AAHHHHHHHH!!!!
>Everytime I diss Leo, some moron always comes in talking so much bullcrap that it's not even funny.
Well come on, it's a little funny.
>It seems to hurt you more than anyone else that I diss Leo, you and revshfksjfddf. Dos Babosos.
Perhaps you should re-read all the comments. Not once did I mention Leo (until now), so let's focus and try to stay on topic.
>Instead, morons like you and revsjdlskjssdjks always have to say something, like if I was dissing you instead of Leo.
Well of course I'll always have soemthing to say. I may not say much but I do say a whole lot.
To REVSCRJ:
Yea, it was a lame movie.
Back to Goku!
>if Smitty here agrees with revdjslkjl, then he's the biggest hyppocrit around here.
But Dos Babosos does have a nice bouncy sound to it!
>In other words, if all people should hate anime to spite people like me, then all people should hate Leo to spite people like him.
Ooooohhhhh, that's what you meant.
But you did compare Leo to anime, and the two had the same outcome. By simple (or horribly misconstrued) logic, by that comparison it'd be safe to assume that because you love anime and want the same outcome for it and Leo, then you must love Leo!
Now it all makes sense. You're seeming dislike for Leo was a mask to hide your true feelings. Very second grade school yard-ish behavior if I do say so myself.
>He's got too much time on his hands to defend Leo.
I don't have to, so I don't. ::see above statement saying I've yet to defend Leo::
>there I was talking to everybody, but here, I was only talking to Leo.
Well, the past few comments ahve been directed towards REVSCRJ and I, that is unless you've swapped Leo with SB, Smitty-boy, Smitty boy, revdjslkjl and revklfjsjdsdkfj. Like I said, aparently I don't know who you're talking about.
Ok, flashback time:
Let's see if you remember how all this began:
I was in the Anime Sucks! forum, right? and then got out to other forums looking for Jason, who I didn't get to find and ended up in the 5th element forum. I read the review and said to myself "that movie doesn't suck!" and decided to read who wrote the negative review. Guess who wrote it : Leo. You with me so far?
ok, now, then I said, "of course, it had to be Leo. He thinks EVERYTHING sucks so I'm not surprised because he also thinks anime sucks. Then I wrote TO LEANDRO, NOT SMITTY-BOY: "oh, you think everything sucks. One of these days, you're gonna write Leo Sucks, By Leo."
After I wrote that, some MORON cough**Smitty-Boy**cough, came in and started talking a lot of crap saying that I'm in category 2 without saying what the hell is category 2 (if it's a joke, NOT FUNNY *yawn*) trying to sound all smart and stuff like he's a psychiatrist, and saying I have too much time on my hands, like saying if I say something against Leo, then I have no life or something like that and then on top that calls me a hyppocrit without even saying why, and to piss me off even more, he says "a thank you goes to those who hate anime" and crap like that, and then says people should hate anime to spite people like me without saying what kind of person I am and then comes to the conclusion that I'm mean and stuff and yadda yadda yadda...
The point is that Smitty acts like if it hurt him more than it hurt Leo that I was dissing him. For Leo, it went in one ear, and came out the other.
AND then Smitty here says that I said HE thinks everything sucks, when I said LEANDRO thinks everything sucks. The reason I said to Smitty that I suck because I don't think everything sucks was because Smitty boy here butted in to a conversation he wasn't part of putting words into my mouth, you know, looking for trouble, like if I was talking to him. I said that because it seemed like he agrees with Leo that everything sucks because he was defending him, like if Leo's a baby who can't defend himself. This is between me and Leo. It's alright if Smitty here says, The 5th Element does suck and then we argue about it, but the "Leo thinks everything sucks" thing is between me and Leo. Do YOU think everything sucks? Cool, you're welcome to disagree with me, but if you don't then SHUT UP AND MIND YOUR OWN DAMN BUSINESS!!!!! Then you start saying that I said this and that about you because, hey, you asked for it. Tu quiere mambo? Coje mambo ahora. Stupid moron.
See? Smitty is the biggest baboso in this forum. He says I have feelings for Leo when he's the one who's always butting in to defend him. I guess he's masking himself that he's in love with Leo by saying I have feelings for him.
Leo, Cuidao!!! Se le moja la canoa.
Goku try putting on your thinking cap and then look to see where I wrote about catagory # 2. If you read all the comments, assuming you have five minutes of time in your busy life, you'll notice that I didn't but in for anyone's sake but my own. My first comment about people, although seemingly irrelevant had a purpose but I forgot it at the time. It was later I remembered what it was, and it was to say you're a hypocrit. The purpose for my elaborancy still alludes me.
>trying to sound all smart and stuff like he's a psychiatrist
For all you know I could be one.
>and saying I have too much time on my hands
The truth hurts doesn't it?
>saying if I say something against Leo, then I have no life or something like that and then on top that calls me a hyppocrit without even saying why
I did, but you didn't bother to read everything.
>and to piss me off even more, he says "a thank you goes to those who hate anime" and crap like that, and then says people should hate anime to spite people like me without saying what kind of person I am and then comes to the conclusion that I'm mean and stuff and yadda yadda yadda...
Well I'm sorry you're sense of humor died. I wish I had gotten to know it better, but it's too late now :'(
>The point is that Smitty acts like if it hurt him more than it hurt Leo that I was dissing him.
For the love of all that is holy, when did I say anything about Leo?????
>AND then Smitty here says that I said HE thinks everything sucks
You did, see previous comment ^^
>looking for trouble, like if I was talking to him.
You must have alzheimer's. Did you actually forget what you wrote? Please, someone read all the comments and tell me I'm not crazy here.
>This is between me and Leo.
I never disagreed.
>Do YOU think everything sucks? Cool, you're welcome to disagree with me, but if you don't then SHUT UP AND MIND YOUR OWN DAMN BUSINESS!!!!!
Define everything.
I am minding my own business. Never once did I say anything relating to you and Leo's arguement. I simply said you were being hypocritical. I intended to leave it at that, but you said somehting back, and that was just innaceptable.
>Then you start saying that I said this and that about you because, hey, you asked for it.
Didn't you just get done saying that although you put my name in front of the sentances you were tlaking to Leo?
>Stupid moron.
::sniffle:: harsh.
>See?
::Looks around but nothing there::
>Smitty is the biggest baboso in this forum.
I know what you are but what am I?
>He says I have feelings for Leo
Repeat after me, sar-cas-um. Got that? Goooooood.
>when he's the one who's always butting in to defend him.
When did I jump in to defend him!?!?!?!?!?!?!!?!?!?
>I guess he's masking himself that he's in love with Leo by saying I have feelings for him.
Thank you Sherlock! Did Watson help you out there? If he did I sugest you shoot him. You apparently have lost your sense of humor. Your fist mistake was taking me seriously. You have so much to learn grasshopper.
You make too many assumptions based on no facts. I highly suggest you read all of the comments. You'll notice a few things:
1. I did not intrude on you and Leo's arguement. I started my own, unfortunately.
2. I did not say anything in Leo's defense. If you interpreted something that way then it's my fault for being unclear.
3. I am probaly the most sarcastic person you will ever talk to, next to REVSCRJ of course.
4. You actually were talking to me, or so you made it seem. But apparently I've said things that were misinterpreted as well.
As far as my comment about you being in love with Leo, that was jsut a joke. I thoght you'd laugh, but alas, no. I'm sorry if I've offended you in anyway, or made you angry, but I said things in jest. You however are just rude and mean. I am beginning to think you may have very well lost your sense of humor. Seriously.
>trying to sound all smart and stuff
Yeah stop that smart stuff.
I dont like the sound of it either!
Didfhmn sdkjf usdh, you bad man!!
>For the love of all that is holy,
> when did I say anything about Leo?????
Oh come off it man- "leo" this "leo" that- its geting old! "Leo had grits for brekfast, I want grits" "Leo sleeps in/with a teddy I want one too!"
Just stop.
>Define everything.
Everything that has mass has gravity and therefor sucks.
>3. I am probaly the most sarcastic person
>you will ever talk to, next to REVSCRJ of course.
We have a support group, it meets every second thursday- I have pamphlets if you want.
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REVSCRJ
You know what, Smitty? Forget it. There's no hope for you. I don't wanna repeat myself a bajillion times. Unfortunately, I'm not super like you and I can't read minds, so if you're "expecting" me to know why I'm a hyppocrit, I'm sorry, but I still don't know, unless you don't know why yourself and are bluffing.
SB: Well I'm sorry you're sense of humor died. I wish I had gotten to know it better, but it's too late now :'(
Look who's talking.
SB:For the love of all that is holy, when did I say anything about Leo?????
For the love of all that is holy why then did you say I have too much time on my hands and that I'm a hyppocrit when I wasn't even talking to you in the first place?????
SB:You must have alzheimer's. Did you actually forget what you wrote? Please, someone read all the comments and tell me I'm not crazy here.
You must have paranoia. You probably thought I was talking to you. yeah.
SB:I simply said you were being hypocritical.
Yeah I know. I still don't know why, though. Maybe revdjskj knows. Since he's your buddy he probably knows what you mean and can tell me, unless you come up with something at the last minute.
SB:Didn't you just get done saying that although you put my name in front of the sentances you were tlaking to Leo?
Ok, ok, gosh. If you wanted me to argue with you, why didn't you say so? Dios mio.
I was talking to Leo, but then you wanted me to notice you so badly that you started calling me a hyppocrit and stuff for no reason, so I don't think you want me to leave you out, do you?
SB:When did I jump in to defend him!?!?!?!?!?!?!!?!?!?
Uh, let me think...... I think it was when you called me a hyppocrit, or category 2 or whatever you call it.
SB: You make too many assumptions based on no facts.
Yeah I know. I call people hyppocrits without knowing why and without explaining myself, and out of nowhere saying people have too much time on my hands when I don't have anything to do with anything. I just love to look for trouble with people who aren't even talking to me and are having their own topic to talk about, just for the heck of it.
SB:1. I did not intrude on you and Leo's arguement.
I know. For no reason you first, just said I have too much time on my hands and called me a hyppocrit when I was talking to Leo and I wasn't even dissing you at all, but you didn't intrude, no, no, how dare I think that? You are welcome to read back to the first time I posted in this forum. Not clear? The 5th Element (the Negative Review) ok?? ok.
And if you are referring to the 5th Element being "everything" and that's why you decided to butt in, revskjdlks can clear it out for you, at least he knows what I mean. He is your buddy, your pal:
R:Everything that has mass has gravity and therefor sucks.
don't forget what exists too.
I wasn't talking about the movie in general. The reason I said Leo thinks everything sucks is because so far, some of the articles I've read by Leo he's always criticizing and putting down things saying that they suck. I want to see one article that Leo gives something a plus, or that he likes that certain thing a lot, something he enjoys, and gives good reviews about it. And if it hurts you so much that Leo one day is gonna write an article about himself sucking, then stop him before you commit suicide. I was only exaggerating about him writing an article like that, ok??? So don't kill yourself.
I don't know why you started looking for trouble with me when this wasn't any of your business because by you telling me what you did, you indirectly, even if you don't want to admit it, were defending Leo, and if I have to tell you why, then I guess on top of you having paranoia, you also have alzheimer's disease.
I've told you a million times when you butted in, and you still haven't told me why I'm a hyppocrit. I know you still need time to think about why I'm a hyppocrit, but I told you right away when you butted in to defend Leo. And you talk about me not having facts? Talk about hyppocrit.
SB: You however are just rude and mean. I am beginning to think you may have very well lost your sense of humor. Seriously.
Yeah, I wonder who started calling me a hyppocrit when I was talking to Leo about his article. I thought you'd laugh because the article was meant to be funny, but some people around here don't have a sense of humor, or lost it, like Smitty maybe? And obviously got angry and started talking crap. He first starts calling me a hyppocrit and has the nerve to say I'm rude and mean??
This is for revkjsfhds:
Spanish word of the day: Baboso
pronounciation:Ba-bo-so (as in bah-humbug)-(bow without the w)-(soh) definition: a slobbering moron who drools more than what he talks, meaning that he talks so much bullcrap that it's meaningless nonsense, hyppocritical, and doesn't really have a reason to talk so much crap. Another kind of baboso is the butt-kissing kind. There are a couple of them, but usually it's the first definition. Baboso comes from the word baba, which means drool. And if you hear someone say babosa, they're either dissing a female, or they just saw a slug.
Now, let's use it in a sentence:
Smitty Boy es un baboso.
See you next time for Spanish word of the day. Thank You. ^_^
>Spanish word of the day: Baboso
Thanks. Seriously.
No really, despite the insult, defining it makes it more than just nonsequiter.
We might be argueing but we oughtta
make sense to eachother at least in words if not concepts.
"babosa": a drooling idiot female OR a slug?
Thats a great word! Damn.
>don't forget what exists too.
que? [what?]
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Ahhh, nice, rev! ^_^ We cool, rev, we cool. ^_^
>don't forget what exists too.
R: que? [what?]
that not only does Leo think everything that has mass and gravity sucks, but also other things that exists, like shows, movies, imaginations, etc. sucks.
Well, what started out as not-so-good-natured fun, has turned into a verbal WWI.
Goku, we've both made our elaborant treches, shots have been fired, gas has been dropped, and both sides have yet to flinch. Before there are any casuaties, I say we call it quits.
I concede because I've just stopped caring. I started this for my own amusement, but the joke is old and no longer a joke.
You can say what you want about me, make up any wild stories you want about why I quit; whatever eases the pain works best I guess.
Well, now that Smitty's out of the way, I'll get back to Leo.
So, Leo, is there an article that you've written giving something a plus or something that you actually like?? Oh, I know what it is. Leo doesn't want to write about anything he likes because he's afraid that there'll be people that disagree and will put down what he likes, and he doesn't want that now, right Leo? He'd rather criticize what other people like. Yeah.
for revscrj:
Spanish word of the day:Mojon
Pronounciation: (Mo)-(hone) Definition: A VERY BIG turd, an enormous turd. Also, someone who sees something bad happening and can do something about it but doesn't, also someone that ruins your day, and another type of baboso.
Now, let's use it in a sentence:
George W. Bush es un mojon.
See you next time for spanish word of the day. Thank you and good night. ^_^
Damnit Goku! I had one foot out the door and what do I hear in the backround? A Bush comment.
>George W. Bush es un mojon.
And I suppose you think Clinton was a much better president. He didn't screw anything up afterall.
>Well, now that Smitty's out of the way
Oh no, I was never out of your way, just ducking down hooping you'd trip over me.
Well lookey here, ya did! :D
On to WWII
So, Leo, is there an article that you've written giving something a plus or something that you actually like??
I don't think so. Otherwise I'd have to call this Capital of Almost All Unpleasant Things But Not Quite So.
I know what it is. Leo doesn't want to write about anything he likes because he's afraid that there'll be people that disagree and will put down what he likes, and he doesn't want that now, right Leo? He'd rather criticize what other people like. Yeah.
You could make fun of CoN. I like CoN. :)
leo
(SIGH) Ok, Smitty, so who do you think is better? Bush or Clinton?
By the way it sounds you must like Bush a lot.
The government is evil, period. Clinton's just the lesser of two evils, that's all, but if you think Bush is better, fine. Everyone's brainwashed anyway, so we can't do anything about it.
And... Leo said I could make fun of Capital of Nasty... But I still want to see at least half of a positive article from him.
Oh my God Oh my God Oh my GOD!!! Hey, Leo, do you think rap sucks? 'Cause if you do, write an article about it so I can agree with you on something!! ^_^
... If there is one thing you do NOT want to do, it's to say to me( or in my presence) that government is evil. Go and read my article. You'll understand.
Ok, Smitty, I won't. It's people like you that make America so ignorant anyway. One thing I do want to tell you though so you can open your eyes is try to look for the book "Vulture in Eagles Clothing" and "How to Cook a Vulture" by Lynne Meredith, or go to the website mathaba.net, type it in a search engine to be more precise. I think you can't go there anymore because the government tried to prohibit people from viewing it, so I think you have to be a member or something like that, and if you'd like, which you probably won't but I'll tell you anyway, there's also a radio station that talks about the evils of the government, and they're not scared either.
And Bush's election? Come on now, it's obvious that the gov't wanted him there because the real winner was Gore, but since he thinks, unlike Bush, the gov't didn't want him there. Who picked the president, the gov't did, not the people. There were blacks and hispanics in Florida that weren't allowed to vote because there were criminal records against them and they were fake, so America really isn't democratic my friend. It hasn't been for a long time, and I wouldn't be surprised if Bush won again because the people don't really have the power here, it just seems that way.
So, unfortunately, Smitty, the ugly reality is, that America wants to take over the world, and they're slowly going to accomplish it too if people like yourself blindly keep supporting them. They cause problems in other countries, and then try to solve it their way making the rest of the world seem like they're the bad guys. And the drugs, don't even get me started with the drugs. For heroine addicts, there's a drug called Ibogaine that completely cures the addicts of cravings and they actually leave the addiction, but the US doesn't want that drug because of one problem: MONEY.
Ibogaine actually CURES addicts, so hospitals won't be in business. The FDA disapproves it, and if you want, type in Ibogaine in a search engine so you can read about it yourself. It's all about the money here. The gov't brings in the drugs, gives it to people, and then they become society's outcast and at the same time get rich from the drug sales.
The war of vietnam, the Gulf war, commercial wars. They know they were there for the opium and the oil, and in WW2 when the Americans bombed Japan with a nuclear bomb, wonder why? Because the Japanese bombed them? Exactly. They were too afraid to mess with Germany and it was also because they were Asians, not Caucasians, or white. They could've ended the war right away if they had bombed Germany with a nuclear bomb, but no, it had to be Japan. You wanna know why Japan bombed Pearl Harbor? Because America secretly entered the war helping out Britain when they should've announced that they were in the war, but they entered secretly. Japan said, "oh, so they're in the war too and they didn't tell us? I guess it's ok to bomb them now because they've become part of the war, so they're fighting too". America should've bombed GERMANY, not Japan. Germany was kicking the England's butt, so they asked America for help. Oh, and did you know that Britain owns America again? Oh yes, ever since WW2. Our beloved president FDR gave away the land that the patriots had fought so hard for back to Britain.
I'm telling you, America is trying to take over the world. They don't butt out of anybody's business. Did you know that one of the first countries America tried to take over was my family's and also I consider it my homeland too even though I was born here, Dominican Republic, or Santo Domingo? It was also the American Gov't that killed Trujillo because Trujillo wouldn't comply with the American Gov't. Usually, the presidents that are put in Santo Domingo is because the American Gov't says it's Ok. What gives America the right to say which president should be in Santo Domingo, and which shouldn't? It's not America's country, so they should butt out, unless they also own Santo Domingo and I haven't found out yet.
Ever seen the movie "The Patriot"? That movie sends a message to all Americans showing how unity makes strength, that's why I adore that movie. If we all wake up and stop giving the gov't the power that we've been giving it for so many years and crush it, we'll trully be independent again and have a fair and just, clean American gov't, like the American patriots did with England. There are still American patriots now in the present, but very few, and they trully know what's really going on with the gov't. They're weak because everybody's brainwashed, yes, especially you, Smitty. We ALL have to unite and crush the gov't. That's some of the stuff I know. Imagine what we don't know. -_-
So Smitty, sorry to burst your bubble and your illusion on how great the gov't is my friend, but that's the awful truth. I'm going to read your article, but you should also give a shot to what I told you. It's practically impossible to convert someone who's brainwashed, especially all these people who give the gov't power, because we're the ones who give the gov't power, and without us, they're NOTHING, so they need to brainwash us so that they could stay in power.
O'er the Land of the deceeeeiiiived.....
And the home..of the.. Slaaaaaave.....
Do you actually beleive yourself? Seriously. Do you?
LMAO. Sorry, I didn't mean any offense by what I said...I love your comments though...even if they're somewhat insulting to me, they're still funny *g*
I see you think I made this stuff up. Well, that happens with all people who are brainwashed and don't want to see the truth. Oh well, I tried. I said all I had to say. There's nothing else I can do. I did say it's practically impossible to convert brainwashed people, but I gave it a shot anyway. It worked for my cousin who was all for Bush and stuff, and she realized this herself without me having to beg her to believe me. Remember, you have to see both sides, not just one, but whatever.
Hello rev!!! Welcome to Spanish word of the Day!!
Today's Spanish word of the day is:
Apollador Pronounciation:(Ah)(poe without the e) (ja)(dor) Definition: Someone who supports something or someone blindly no matter what, even if they know what they're doing is wrong. For females, it's Apolladora.
Now let's use it in a sentence:
Smitty-Boy es un Apollador.
Well, join me next time for Spanish word of the Day.
Thank You and good night. ^_^
Did you ever think that perhaps you are the brainwashed one? You aren't looking at both sides of the story. You refuse to change your ideas. Before you accuse me of things you don't understand, take a good look at yourself. That's all. Byebye
Ahem
"La babosa es una apolladora" The slug is a fanatic (feminine context)
Makes note in stolen Blues Clues notepad:
"Hooked on el phonics!"
Bilinguiler as we speak.
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I refuse to change my ideas? Look who's talking. You don't even try to find out for yourself whether the gov't is corrupt or not and you say I'm brainwashed? During the first Persian Gulf war in the early '90's I was like "yeah, go USA!!" And stuff like that until my father and I started to find out certain things. Oh, and you know what? Remember that time when Bush bombed Iraq just to show off his power to Mexico and stuff like that? No one knew about it, Nobody, until way later. The only channel that they showed it on was Telemundo, which is a spanish channel. I guess they weren't supposed to show it.
You unfortunately are living in a dream you don't want to wake up from. I respect your patriotism and stuff, but you gotta help try to correct the problem. I'm just wasting my time here anyway trying to convince you, but just tell me one thing, you believe everything positive that they tell you about the gov't? Even if it's not true? Because if it's like that then you're never going to wake up from the wonderful dream that you're living in. Do you really think that the gov't is stupid enough to let people know what they're doing behind everyone's back? No, I don't think so. That's why they kill those who know about it and are afraid that people will be more likely to believe those people, like soldiers maybe, or good politicians. Didn't you see all the people that were against Bush bombing Iraq? Even in AOL news, the Dixie Chicks were saying that Bush makes America look bad in front of the world, and they're from Texas, just like Bush. And I didn't tell them anything.
I dunno. Maybe you'll wake up later like my cousin did who was all for Bush and the gov't. And she saw for herself. I didn't try too hard to convince her.
Anyways, there's no use in trying to change your mind. One of these days, Bush is gonna get America in deep crap bullying around other countries for no reason, and the people are going to have to pay for it. It's happening already.
Oh my God Oh my God Oh my GOD!!! Hey, Leo, do you think rap sucks? 'Cause if you do, write an article about it so I can agree with you on something!! ^_^
I don't know anything about RAP so I can't say whether it sucks or not :)
But I'll start researching.
leo
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOK.
>I refuse to change my ideas?
Are you talking to yourself again?
>Look who's talking.
Huh? Where!?
> You don't even try to find out for yourself whether the gov't is corrupt or not
How would you know? Are you stalking me?
>and you say I'm brainwashed?
Funny, I don't recall saying that.
>Remember that time when Bush bombed Iraq just to show off his power to Mexico and stuff like that?
Yep, good times.... good times.
>The only channel that they showed it on was Telemundo, which is a spanish channel.
I would ahve never guessed.
>You unfortunately are living in a dream
Then why can't I fly? It is MY dream afterall. Wait, why are you still here then? This is a crappy dream.
> respect your patriotism and stuff
Sure you do.
> I'm just wasting my time here anyway trying to convince you,
Yet you feel compelled to write the rest of this and two other paragraphs.
>you believe everything positive that they tell you about the gov't?
I'm glad abrv's are good time savers.
>Because if it's like that then you're never going to wake up from the wonderful dream that you're living in.
You're here and I can't fly, what's so wonderful about it?
>Do you really think that the gov't is stupid enough to let people know what they're doing behind everyone's back?
Well apparently I'm too wrapped up in my dream to care about such things.
>Didn't you see all the people that were against Bush bombing Iraq?
Well I've never met them personally...
>the Dixie Chicks were saying that Bush makes America look bad in front of the world, and they're from Texas, just like Bush. And I didn't tell them anything.
So you think all Texans should be gun-totin' tabacco chewin', red-necks who want to take over the frikin' world? How very condesending of you.
>I dunno. Maybe you'll wake up later like my cousin did who was all for Bush and the gov't. And she saw for herself. I didn't try too hard to convince her.
Really, that's jsut super. Now ask me if I care.
>Anyways, there's no use in trying to change your mind.
And ruin what we have together?
>One of these days, Bush is gonna get America in deep crap bullying around other countries for no reason,
Yea, what did Saddam ever do? Oh yeah, killed his own people, ruled with an iron fist, was a tyrant hated and feared by most of the people. Did you ever see pictures where people were around him? Nobody was smiling because they were happy.
>and the people are going to have to pay for it.
Well I'm broke, so oh well.
>It's happening already.
I bet you beleive that. I can picture you sitting in your parents basement making up gov't conspiracies and plots of world domination. That actually sunds like fun. MOVIE THEATRES ARE EVIL CORPORATIONS!!!!!! That's all I got so far. More in the next edition of "Smitty-boy's comments!!!"
Oh well, Smitty. Why bother arguing with you when all you're doing is proving me right?
SB:Are you talking to yourself again?
No. I think I was talking to Smitty Boy.
SB: Huh? Where!?
pssssssssssst! Over here!!
SB: How would you know? Are you stalking me?
Now why would I waste my time doing that.
SB: Funny, I don't recall saying that.
SB: Did you ever think that perhaps you are the brainwashed one?
yep. you were the one who said that.
SB: Then why can't I fly? It is MY dream afterall. Wait, why are you still here then? This is a crappy dream.
Of course it's a crappy dream. You think that the gov't is actually good. Duh. I don't remember people doing whatever they want in their dreams because they're not aware it's a dream.
SB:Really, that's jsut super. Now ask me if I care.
Uh... Do you care? I guess you do because you keep answering me.
SB: More in the next edition of "Smitty-boy's comments!!!"
Copycatter. -_-
I could have swore this was about a movie review. anyway, I expect a flame. got this from different sites, the one I want to post (to goku) is too long...so its shortened to this, and i'll see if i can post it later.
--------------- In 1496 Christopher Columbus's brother, Bartolomeo, founded the first permanent and now the oldest European settlement in the new world, Santo Domingo. At the time, the entire island -- the largest in the Caribbean after Cuba -- was known as Hispaniola, and the colonial city of Santo Domingo served as the jumping-off point for further Spanish colonization of the Caribbean and the Americas.
For the next 300 years the island was the scene of constant warfare between European powers. The French carved out the western third of the island that eventually became known as Haiti. The Dominican Republic struggled through several wars of independence, in 1821 from Spain, and in 1844 from Haiti.
------------ Often mistakenly referred to as "just a poor man's Puerto Rico," the Dominican Republic has its own distinctive cuisine and cultural heritage. Its Latin flavor is a sharp contrast to the character of many nearby islands, especially the British- and French-influenced ones.
Every day, many Dominicans risk their lives crossing the 54-mile (87km) wide Mona Passage, hoping to land on Puerto Rico before attempting to slip into the United States.
Subject: Gov't
By: Gokugirl826 The war of vietnam, the Gulf war, commercial wars. They know they were there for the opium and the oil, and in WW2 when the Americans bombed Japan with a nuclear bomb, wonder why? Because the Japanese bombed them?
So you seem to be saying (or its like), if you got punched in the face, or if anyone hurt your family you would do nothing? And I already know I am going to be flamed so go ahead.
They were too afraid to mess with Germany and it was also because they were Asians, not Caucasians, or white. They could've ended the war right away if they had bombed Germany with a nuclear bomb, but no, it had to be Japan
There are TONS of unanswered reasons for WW 1 and 2, I mean TONS it never ends! There's different stories and different biased views. Naturally Germany would look at America as an enemy and tell their side, while an America would look at Germany and tell their side.
But why blow up a country (at that time) that was already killing off its population? Then the history books will still blame America for everything.
You wanna know why Japan bombed Pearl Harbor? Because America secretly entered the war helping out Britain when they should've announced that they were in the war, but they entered secretly. Japan said, "oh, so they're in the war too and they didn't tell us? I guess it's ok to bomb them now because they've become part of the war, so they're fighting too". America should've bombed GERMANY, not Japan.
That's like screaming "I'm hiding over here" in a game of hide n seek, its war...and its cruel and its not about being fair unless there is something in the way (not in a cruel sense) I'm talking about people who are not soldiers or the countries leader. But way rag on America? Why not put Britain to blame too in this post? One strategie in WW1 and 2 was getting as many countries to back you up.
And what is your prediction if America had bombed Germany? Maybe you would be posting the same thing only in the opposite way. Its like a never ending unpredictable opinion. IMO
Germany was kicking the England's butt, so they asked America for help. Oh, and did you know that Britain owns America again? Oh yes, ever since WW2. Our beloved president FDR gave away the land that the patriots had fought so hard for back to Britain.
So if someone was bashing your head in and your brother or anyone from a friend to a relative stood by, you wouldn't call out for help?
Look how it is now, Bush (not all of America) asked France for help in this war and they refused-nothing wrong with that -- but look what happened. Threats, Insults, Boycotts, Hate Crimes, etc So if America had refused to give Britain help at that time, I'm sure America and Britain wouldn't be on good speaking terms.
Germany was divided up into 4 parts: an American, British, French and Soviet occupation zone. Another point of war is to establish territory, stupid by today standards and America is now dropping its bases, borders, and laws in other countries.
I'm telling you, America is trying to take over the world. They don't butt out of anybody's business.
You are saying this like "I'm not apart of this but you are" you can't speak for America cause not every one person here thinks alike or supports certain acts. And its usually other countries that ask for Americas help, then when the US refuses the egging comes...then when America does do something it ends up the scapegoat
EX "why doesn't America help Africa?"
Why does it have to be America that does something first? Why not another country? Vs/Vs Yeah I know very American of me, but its like does one nation have to have the pressure of setting a world example?
Did you know that one of the first countries America tried to take over was my family's and also I consider it my homeland too even though I was born here, Dominican Republic, or Santo Domingo? It was also the American Gov't that killed Trujillo because Trujillo wouldn't comply with the American Gov't. Usually, the presidents that are put in Santo Domingo is because the American Gov't says it's Ok. What gives America the right to say which president should be in Santo Domingo, and which shouldn't? It's not America's country, so they should butt out, unless they also own Santo Domingo and I haven't found out yet.
Its like you are saying only America was involved there were others
Somthing that bothers me is everyone talks about how lousy America is, but people still come here and they still live here! What was so bad in their own place that they'd come here and pretty much complain how much worse it is, when they could just leave...no one is stopping them. Personally I like that there are so many cultures here, but you have to admit its getting too crowded and too complicated. And its hard knowing you can't make a comment without offending someone.
Ever seen the movie "The Patriot"? That movie sends a message to all Americans showing how unity makes strength, that's why I adore that movie. If we all wake up and stop giving the gov't the power that we've been giving it for so many years and crush it, we'll trully be independent again and have a fair and just, clean American gov't, like the American patriots did with England.
I know it sounds good, but you can't really be sure unless its tired, but who is going to regulate money, jobs, travel, religious opinions, laws etc etc and the list goes on. I need more info on what you are saying there.
People only do and think ahead so much, even in places that still hold tribal people...they even have a leader that says what they can and cannot do. Its basic human instinct and common sense to choose a leader or be one yourself. And no I am not brain washed I don't agree with a lot of things the government does...any for that matter.
Say people want to outlaw abortion and OVER AND OVER demand GOVN take action or else...the pres/govn is going to do it for personal gain and not the single person who made the choice to have it.
The point of the American President is 'he was chosen by the people and could easily be denounced, he has to do what we say, but there also has to be limits on both sides'
So Smitty, sorry to burst your bubble and your illusion on how great the gov't is my friend, but that's the awful truth.
Can't blame the gov for everything...half the time its 'us', society that's the problem, we are not too great ourselves.
O'er the Land of the deceeeeiiiived.....
And the home..of the.. Slaaaaaave.....
Depending on what you mean. As in slave to what?
Now it all makes sense Goku...
>Did you know that one of the first countries America tried to take over was my family's and also I consider it my homeland too even though I was born here, Dominican Republic, or Santo Domingo? It was also the American Gov't that killed Trujillo because Trujillo wouldn't comply with the American Gov't. Usually, the presidents that are put in Santo Domingo is because the American Gov't says it's Ok. What gives America the right to say which president should be in Santo Domingo, and which shouldn't? It's not America's country, so they should butt out, unless they also own Santo Domingo and I haven't found out yet.
So, America has made a mistake in the past and you see this as a grave injustice. You've taken perosnal offense to what America did in the past. Now, everything America does you see as "evil."
If America is so bad, then why do we send our soldiers to die in other countries for the sake of saving their people? When's the last time an American burned another country's flag (in reference to KittD's comment)? Have you ever stopped to realize that perhaps America has good intentions when we help another country? Unless you think ruthless dictators killing their own people and putting them in mass graves are good people.
I'm not sure where you said it, but you said their's no point in trying to change the ideas of a brainwashed person. You aren't changing your beliefs anytime soon (I'm talking about hating America). However, I know of most of the good and bad things our government does. I also know of the good and bad things society as a whole do. Specific acts of individuals and small groups have had positive and negatiev effects as well. The problem with you is that you nly see the negative. You are too wrapped up in finding government plots and conspiracies to care about the poitives, such as welfare, foreign aid, and national defense (protecting the citizens).
Once again, I've forgotten my point, but I'm sure I had more to say.
This had been Comments by Smitty-boy. Join us next time when Smitty-boy remembers his point and actually writes it down.
I understand your point of view KittD. I know that if we revolt against the gov't and actually win, there isn't going to be much order and we might have to start from scratch. I understand that. I have thought about that. No gov't is really 100% clean, I understand that. The point I'm trying to make here is that people need to wake up and be aware of some of the things the gov't has been doing. I don't think what Japan did to the US was right either, but what the US did was worse. They dropped a Nuclear bomb in Japan, and there was a lot of radiation killing a lot of innocent people, and there still is radiation today there too. They should've dropped that bomb on Germany instead because Germany is much stronger than Japan. Japan was just helping Germany, but the main bad guy here was Germany, not Japan. I don't think Japan dropped a nuclear bomb on the US now did they? Are we dying here from radiation sickness from that bomb? No, we're just fine. And I also don't think Hiroshima and Nagasaki were bases for weapons and stuff like that, unless I'm wrong so you can correct me if I'm wrong. I suck at history. Anyways, they overdid it with that nuclear bomb. I'm just trying to warn everybody and tell them that the US gov't isn't all that great.
And I don't think any country but Japan knew that the US was helping out Britain. In a way, that's like cheating and being sneaky because America was secretly helping out Britain, and then on top of that throw nuclear bombs on Japan, like saying "you have no right to bomb us because we're not fighting". They were like trying to fool everybody into thinking that they weren't helping Britain. And I was told in my College class, that America bombed Japan because they were Asians, not Caucasians or whites, but Asians, and they were weaker than Germany. It wasn't going to make much of a difference if they bombed Japan, but if they would've bombed Germany, or even better, Hitler, it would've made a big difference.
KD: Look how it is now, Bush (not all of America) asked France for help in this war and they refused
I wonder why. France must know something we don't.
KD:And its usually other countries that ask for Americas help,
So tell me, besides Britain, what other country has asked the US for help?
KD: Why does it have to be America that does something first? Why not another country?
Like what?
KD: Its like you are saying only America was involved there were others
So what do you say about countries that do better than America? So I should talk about the other countries instead?
KD:Somthing that bothers me is everyone talks about how lousy America is, but people still come here and they still live here! What was so bad in their own place that they'd come here and pretty much complain how much worse it is, when they could just leave...no one is stopping them.
Maybe it's because America wants to make all the other countries poorer so that they won't have a choice but to come here. In Santo Domingo, the US decides who should be the president there, like in the election with Macluta and Peņa Gomez. Since Balaguer couldnīt be the president anymore, Macluta was running against Peņa Gomez. Peņa Gomez was the real winner in the election, but since the US didnīt approve of him being president in Santo Domingo, they put in Leonel Fernandez instead. Leonel Fernandez is a Dominican born in the US. What gives America the right to choose who reigns where? And the US was controlling Santo Domingo during Balaguer's time as president because he had health problems, he was very old, and on top of that was also blind, and the US took advantage of that.
KD: Depending on what you mean. As in slave to what?
Slave in that we work so hard and all the tax money goes to weapons. Only a very tiny percentage goes for the people, but most of the money goes to weapons and bombs etc. The gov't uses our money that we work so hard for for their own uses and plans. That's why I hate that stupid movie "Pearl Harbor". They make America look like the weak victims and Japan like the horrible monster, but they don't mention anything about the radiation killing people in Japan now do they? The US is very sneaky let me tell you. And as for being deceived? Oh we're deceived alright. Smitty here's a good example of that and every other person who blindly supports the US gov't. That's the gov't's job, to brainwash people, and they've done a fine job with Smitty. Smitty is their puppet, their moron. You, on the other hand don't seem like you're brainwashed, but you should do a little research, at least a little because you seem to be on the right track, and you're aware that the gov't isn't all that.
Well, I'm not arguing with Smitty anymore because he already proved me right, and no matter what I tell him he's gonna think I'm crazy and retarded and how could I think that, you know, but I don't care.
And sorry for getting off topic, but all I said in the beginning, and it was a spanish sentence to rev, was that Bush was a mojon, and then Smitty got hurt, like when I dissed Leo, 'member? and then said,"Oh no!! How dare you speak like that about our great leader and the government?!" I just told him some of the stuff I know.
And thanks for the info on Santo Domingo. I suck at history, so you could say I never knew about that in detail. ^_^
Passionate people here. Can't stop those anti-government juices flowing. How did Leo dissing the 5th element end up being a political debate? *confused* So he thought the movie sucked....yeh, ok, I'm still confused.
And this is way old, but why can't Gokugirl826 make an effort to get revscrj's name right?
How did Leo dissing the 5th element end up being a political debate?
Been wondering about that myself.
I know how this all started. Goku is retarded and got onto this whole "America is evil" type thing. And that started a whole other thng about politics and such.
I wouldn't so much call it a debate as I would petty bickering. She's saying Ameica is evil and I'm saying she's a stupid biatch.
So c'mon Goku, whatcha got ta say about tat?
lol, I just couldn't think of a proper title, BUT anyway I read your post Goku and you make sense (not saying that in a rude way) you have your own version and I have mine. And a fact it will take too long to reply...only leading to longer replies, so I'll just cut mine off right here if ya don't mind?
And ya should do more history (history in general) back up on Japan...cause some of the acts by their govn at that time isn't that innocent.
---wow this is really jumping subs a bit--
There have been a good deal of Asian on Asian wars/invasions, but I think Japan stood out the most, especially with the Nanking thing and when Korea closed off trade with Japan.
Subject: what?!
By: isha returns Passionate people here. Can't stop those anti-government juices flowing. How did Leo dissing the 5th element end up being a political debate? *confused* So he thought the movie sucked....yeh, ok, I'm still confused.
Thats what I'd like to know...I think Smitty and Goku started it lol ^_^
Yeah. All I said was that Bush is a mojon, and that was just an example of a sentence for rev because he seems to be interested in learning some Spanish, and Smitty went crazy and started saying all the bullcrap he said. And then he says I'm retarded and a stupid biatch and then has the nerve to make it look like I started the whole political thing. People, do you really think it's worth arguing with someone like that? You're talking about one thing and then Smitty pops out of nowhere and starts problems, like when I was talking to Leo and he called me a hyppocrit when I wasn't even talking to him, and then I'm showing some Spanish words to rev and just because I mentioned Bush, he goes all crazy on me "DON'T YOU DARE SAY THE GOV'T IS EVIL" and crap like that. I wasn't even talking to him, I was talking to rev, but you know, Smitty's an attention junkie. Smitty supports the gov't because he's just like they are. He has the right to say anime sucks, but I don't have the right to say the gov't sucks. He even beat up a kid because the kid said that.
Smitty, why don't you just say straight up that it deeply hurts you that I say America is evil and that your boyfriend Bush is also evil? I won't say it anymore if it hurts you so much. He should just tell me he's deeply in love with Bush and that he also loves a socialist gov't, that's all. I did say I wasn't going to waste my time arguing with you because you just keep proving to me that I'm right, so why keep arguing? This is a 5th Element forum, right? So why don't you and your brainwashed buddies go help Bush plan on how to terrorize another country that has resources that interest him and the gov't after you've made love with him and let us argue with people who are actually worth arguing with? Dios mio. -_-
He dicho. Caso cerrado.
one possible theorie is that the head of every countrie was taken capture by monkeys and brain washed
In regards to the spanish, thanks- really, no sarcasm. In regards to Bush: I personally think he is the lowest form of scum the species has to offer. He is a puppet for his Father's cadre of big business monstrosity, while at the same time wealthy enough, and influential enough to be a real positive force in the world- instead he chooses his puppet status. I have more respect for your average junkie than I do for him.
...not 'your' junkie... I mean 'the average junkie'... unless you happen to be a pusher, then I did mean 'your'...
The Chandra telescope, a device that measures background xray radiation which assisted in the recent dating of the age of the universe has made aq startling discovery. Apparently the background radiation field (a static haze of radiation that is constant throughout the universe) has micro deviance patterns that correspond to a sequential progression of prime numbers. This discovery was verified through the SETI multiband algorhythmic analysis supercomputer network (SMAASN).
This has led to various sects of muslim and xian groups to use this data as proof that 1) there must be a sentiant force within the undercurrents of the universe and 2) that the Earth IS the center of the universe (as the numbers would not be resultant in the same progression from any other point in the universe).
Personally I think its just a coincidence.
the fith element sucks its the worst movie i've ever seen.