It happens, once in a while, that you end up with a fresh dead body. Or corpse to be more precise. And you'll notice that the very first question that always comes to mind is not "who is this guy?" or "how did he die?" but more likely "how do I get rid of it?" At first, it was not an easy task; I would chainsaw the body, and scatter the pieces around, use cement and ditch it in the lake, hoping the fishies would like the free snack. I have even tried acid, but it's bloody messy and the washroom never looks the same. And the myth that a starved dog will eat a corpse? Not true. Plenty of leftovers, not including the bones.
Yup, I've tried all the various brute force techniques, and I can assure you, none work too well. Even stashing the body in the trunk of my car, driving several hours up North and ditch the body in a bush in the forest. And that's the problem: brute force attack in getting rid of a body is exactly the wrong way of doing things.
Fortunately through years of experience, I have found several methods to easily dispose of a body before it starts to smell and it upsets the local authorities. First of all there are a few things you have to take in consideration when getting rid of a body: you don't want to attract scavengers. While this might seem as a good thing, since they quickly chew up the fleshy part of the body, it attracts too much attention. Where did that fox get that arm? I'm sure you wouldn't let that go by. You don't want the body to be found for a long time. If the body is not found, well, then maybe, just maybe, the person is not really dead, but just disappeared. Lastly, you don't want any connection between you and the corpse.
In my case, I have learned to make best use of the resources I have around me. Take for example No Frills, a convenient grocery store where many of my connections are located. Need drugs? Stolen U.S. Army computer equipment? Underground Israeli Army surplus? Cigarettes? You can get it all here if you have the right connections and you know what department to go to. There is also this great sense of brotherhood among the clerks and they will gladly help a fellow brother in need of help. Many times I have found myself parking in the back, take out a big black garbage back with the boys. We'd take the body down to the "Grinder". The meat guy loves me when I drop by with one of my jobs, because he can lower the prices of his ground beef by having a 50/50 mixture of ground human meat and ground beef, since human, he once told me, "tastes more like chicken".
This method has worked many times. It has the downside of requiring so much work, especially in the preparation of the meat to ensure that no clothes or jewels or other recognizable items are found by the customers.
Of course there is a quick and easy way these days: the compactor. It only works well in the summer unfortunately. First of all the body must be put in several black plastic bags to ensure that they will not break and reveal that the garbage is indeed a person. During the summer, a compactor usually starts to smell real bad, partly due because of the rotten meat and vegetables thrown in there, with the occasional chemical bottle, and part because... well, who knows who's been throwing what in your local grocery store's compactor eh?
Alas, not everyone has access to these delightful conveniences. Of course, you could try the daring way. Pack the body in a hefty bag and leave it for the garbage men to pick up. If you do try this, don't leave it in front of your house. Many good men I knew got caught by the authorities for doing a stupid mistake like that.
A friend of mine told me of a neat trick, which is to leave the body in an hospital. The hard part is not bringing it down to the morgue. You see, if you are wearing the right clothing, with the hint of a nametag or some sort of fake ID, and you act as if you were supposed to be there, people will leave you alone. So, the real challenge, and too risky if you ask me, is bringing the body from the car, to the hospital entrance. Unless you have the hospital worked out well (other entrances, someone from the inside that you can trust), I would highly avoid this.
One of my friends has an easy way to get rid of his bodies. He dresses them in sky-diving gear, puts a parachute on their back and pushes them off. Many of those "accidents" you hear on the radio? Fear not, the victim was already dead.
There is a saying that "two is company, three is a crowd". Many of my suggestions are unfortunately involving quite a crowd. You need someone there to help you out. Not all of us are lucky to have people that are willing to take such a big risk to help you rid of a body. So, here are a few suggestions for those that need to or prefer, working solo.
Niagara Falls: avoid it like the pest. Even at 4 o'clock in the morning, there is always someone there. And even if you do throw the body over with a pair of cement slippers, eventually the strength of the current will snap the body at the knees and guess who'll flow back up? So avoid this method with the passion. It's the first place the coppers look anyway.
Take the body, place it on the rail tracks of a well traveled line. Near a bend if possible. This will avoid the body from being spotted virtually immediately and the chance that a slow moving freight train could stop in time. You want momentum to be your friend. Of course, you have to make it look like an accident. Take out a freshly bought bottle of some strong alcohol, pour some on the body, and put the bottle next to the body, but far enough so it won't break. People will think the obvious, while the body will be nicely mauled making it unrecognizable for a while.
If you don't need time, but just want to get rid of the body quickly and in a clean way, steal a wheelchair. The person that was on it will most likely not chase after you. After that, go see a movie. With the body. On the wheelchair. As you enter, talk to the body on how good the movie will be. Buy the tickets and wheel the body to see Titanic (the movie is three hours and 15 minutes long, giving you almost 4 hours to play with to create an alibi). When the movie starts and the lights are dimming, tell the body you are going to get some popcorn and stuff. Instead, leave.
There are of course many other ways of solving problems of this kind. It all depends by your imagination and resources and how good your alibi is. Remember though, you should try to avoid at all costs to end up with the terrible task of getting rid of a body. If your job is done well from the beginning, all you have to do, is go and collect the other half of the cheque.
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You didn't mention the problems of DNA ending up on the body, spit, hair, or fingerprints on the bottle, train tracks, or on the wheelchair.
Also, acid can get rid of the body, but you need large amounts, and a place to store it for days.
You forgot pig farms, hungry pigs eat up whole bodies.
The best point you made is to keep the body for a long time instead of getting rid of it quickly, then to let it decompose, and to crush it. Those are your best ideas.
Very interesting ideas although they seem more comical than a way to be scott free,when dealing with a stiff.And the gentleman who said the thing about the pig farm...well you gotta fucking pig farm? The part about allies and trusted ohnes was interesting too.
i like all the soultions to the problem and for the pig farm idea, thats from the movie Snatch but its a great idea, only problem is where to find a pig farm where the owner wont mind you feeding his pigs a dead body, unless your going to off him too, but then you have a pig farm to deal with and thats not good either. and plus you have to shave the heads and pull the teeth out of the dead person, not to mention having to cut it up into 6 parts, witch can be a killer on your floors or the grass, but think long and hard about how you plan to do it, get a deep freeze if you can so that theres no smell and cover every thing with plastic. but have fun with it too, don't think as getting rid of a body as a chore.
I'm suprised your friend could get away with the parachute idea. Usually the coroner can tell if the body was killed before it hit the ground, thus raising unwanted questions.
The best way I have found is either using a crusher (as you suggested) or a good Acid Bath (Make sure to bleach your acid tub and anything else the body may have touched or bled on. This ruins evidence, which has saved my ass several times in court.)
The meat guy at the supermarket doesnt set the prices.
I've heard that if you wrap the body in chain-link fencing and then drop in in a body of water your actions get wiped clean... the chain keeps the body weighted while also letting enough flesh through to make for a good meal for the fishes. So I've heard.
these ideas are great about the pig farm though some one already got caght trying to rid if bodies in with the pigs so i wouldnt go with that what i would try is going down to your local hardware store and pick up a fair sized bag of limestone,then u take your stiff to a body of water and dig a hole by it then stick the body and the limestone into the hole fill it back in and make sure you didnt leave any evidence at the scene be careful think of every thingtire marks footprints and any thing linking u to the crime having a good aliby would be good so u need someone u can trust that isnt linked to u in any way so then the cops wont know the difference
as of the buying lime stone DO NOT buy alot of stuff to make it look unobvious and pay with your credit card or anything that can be traced back to you. as of which alot of you should know but incase some of you dont
Handling the body:
1. "Limp is as bad as they get" if youve never moved a dead body know 1st that its not easy. The way it shifts and flops is by far worse than the weight- humans are easier to kill than to drag about. Be prepared. 2. "Greasy killers stuff, a lil dab'll do ya!" Before handleing vasaline your hair till its all totally saturated. This will keep hair on your head and out of forensic labs. Hair today, caught tommorow. 3. "Like pudding, its better thick and cold" OR Wait for rigormortis. There are many reasons for this but one is bruising that will occur if you grip hard (say for dragging) that will ID your hand size another is less blood shed if cutting into smaller pieces. 4. "Into the mist, he disappeared" Fill a windex bottle w olive oil to spray wherever you MAY have gotten a print- it runs havok with the dusting procedure. 5. "If youre not willing to do a few girlie things you better get the hell out of the biz." Be clean shaven - if possible shave arms and legs as well, then moisturize your whole body to minimize cell dropping- also use a good conditioner for a few weeks beforehand. 6. "Innocence is a good angle" Wear common color, common fabric clothing (cotton shirt, jeans, cotton socks) to avoid fiber dropping of a traceable nature, and it will make one appear nondescript. 7. "Speed dont mean jack if the work is crap" Work at a measured pace to minimize sloppiness, the body isnt in any rush and if you are THIS is not the place to be doing the disposal. 8. "A Fat redhead? Thats not me officer." For safety sake in going outdoors at all buy a spray in wash out hair color to mislead any random witness. You may consider wearing extra layers to appear a larger stature (then DO NOT overdress for the next several months AND actively diet) 9. No trophy is as valuable as freedom.
-hypotheticly speaking.
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first of all all of you are fucking crazy and if u are going to do something like that you dont want to come on here and try to tell about it do it and shut the fuck up about it i have.....
nice!
4 me the only justification for killing is self defense, the rest is murder.
As for a hungry dog won't eat a man i dont agree with you. A hungry big size dog will eat a human body cut down in smaller pieces, or chopped down into tiny pieces; both a lot of work and need of a strong stomach, i recommend living the corpse on the bath tub and chopping from there to avoid making a mess, this is the best way like this no paranoias about dna or any crap like that, everything finishes right there. Who has been lately on a pig farm? some people watch too many movies, please remember movies are always full of shit!! Acid is the best way but i was never good at chemistry...
but what about forensics? When the bod is found police will be able to tell of the person was already dead before they were "killed". I wouldn't suggest cutting anyone up without using a heavy tarp. blood will seep through. no matter how much bleach you use a forensics lab can find it.
The best solution is to make it look like suicide then theres no probs with the forensic guys finding out he was already dead. But to do this you have to be the one to do the killing. Sliiting the wrists is a usual method, or a few too many sleeping pills. If you don't like getting your hands dirty pushing em off of a tall building is a good plan. The important thing to remember is not to be seen .. . If you are seen the only real option is to kill everyone who sees you. I don't reccomend this as its a quite a lot of work so what i would suggest is some kind of disguise. happy hunting.
IS THIS WHOLE SITUATION REAL? OR THIS IS A THINKING QUESTION QUIZ SOMETHING LIKE THAT, LIKE A BRAIN GAME.
I DONT THINK ANY OF THIS IS NORMAL, IS THIS A REAL SITUATION OR WHAT, CAN SOMEBODY WHO IS DECENT TELL ME THAT THIS IS A BRAIN THINKING PROBLEM? oR A REAL ISSUE ???????????????
Faking a suicide is problematic because it means the body will be autopsied. Unless you're knowledgable about forensics, it's very difficult to kill someone and fool the coroner into thinking it's a suicide.
Can't believe I'm making a comment HERE. Anywayz if you have a boat, this will work.
Chop the body up into pieces and store it in a cooler under ice. Go on your boat on a day when there's supposed to be a thunderstorm. It's pretty self explanatory from here. Hopefully your boat will capsize. Make sure you're wearing a life jacket and if possible, carrying one of those auto-inflatable boats. Return to shore and say you just survived a storm, but your boat didn't. Sure you lost a boat, but if you can afford a boat in the first place then you can probably afford another one in a few months.
Provided you make it out to sea w/ cooler of diced human, why not simply dump it and return to shore? I mean, you've already killed and now you are going to sink a boat and cast away a perfectly useful cooler? Where does the madness end?
what the fuck r u people thinking?!?!?!?! 1st of all you just don't kill people!!!!!!!!!! no matter wut the cercumstances!!!!!!!!! I was looking on how to get a crush and i found this!!!!!!!!! You people are sick!!!!!!
Murder is a cruel awful sinful thing to do!!!!!!! but you people made a website on how to do it??????????? Absolutely disgusting you people are down right bithes!!!!!
Hmm, thats quite a lisp you type with.
Anyway: cruel? Depends on the murder in particular- some are I suppose, but I try not to judge lest I be judged and found wanting. This article is about disposal, not judgement- keep that in mind
I love this...is it REAL or Memore X ? If you are going to DO IT or just want to know how....if you are a writer you have to read this stuff and think it through totally to make your character SUCESSFUL of a LOSER....Who dun it? Who Cares... research if you right...Get it Right -RITE Everytime....
Oh yeah and of course, NEVER EVER even THINK about either the killing or the disposal EVER AGAIN. Whenever you find yourself drifting there think about baseball or your plans for dinner or better yet 'your alibi'- only think about these things with force. The purpose is to divorce your own mind's association with you and the afforementioned deeds should you ever be before a jury or attatched to a lie detector. It requires a bit of dedication and self awareness but eventually you WILL 'believe your own lie' and the memory will be distant and detatched like the recollection of an old TV show episode.
-speaking in conjecture.
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OK for 1. i have never seen such moronic people in my life..calling u all morons would be an insult to stupid people..2.hands feet and head are the most important thing to get rid of ...3 water destroys most of the evidence if the person is under for a long time..4 landscaping and concrete jobs..hint ..5.. hide under dead body in same casket...6..u know how many bodies r under ur house basment floor...why are u people so dumb ...u retarded fungais grown from feces...NOW SHUT UP..AND FOR MY POINTS..USE UR IMAGINATION U IMBECILES..IM DUN!
Your text screams "dolt", so I won't even bother highlighting that. Your points:
>1. i have never seen such moronic people in my life>
Get an AOL account.
>2.hands feet and head are the most important thing to get rid of>
Agreed, however modern forensic can ID via hair, semen and DNA if they have a matching sample elsewhere- ie: the person who has "gone missing"'s hairbrush, sheets, etc. Why take chances?
>3 water destroys most of the evidence if the person is under for a long time..>
"Long Time" being the operative term. As a body decays it will bloat with gasses that will, in conjunction with it softening make a liklihood that it may bob back up to the surface unless great care is taken in the weighting, tieing up, and choice of location to sink it.
>4 landscaping and concrete jobs..hint >
If you happen to own a property or are a general contractor, more power to you, but if that were so you wouldn't need to read an article such as this except for a desire to see how the 'other half' lives.
>5.. hide under dead body in same casket...>
If you happen to be a funeral home director [insert rest of previous comment]
>6..u know how many bodies r under ur house basment floor...>
If I am reading your Doltspeak correctly you are infering that 'you don't forget' in referance to my previous comment. Of course not, I never said you did, what I said was that you disassociate the memory from yourself so that you really don't percieve it as you who did the killing. To quote Henry Lee Lucas "Sometime it was like I was just there watching and it was the hands that were doing it."
>IM DUN!
thats spelled with an "-mb", FYI
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First off, if you put a body in the garbage, put it in several large trash bags in one of those giant green dumpsters behind restaraunts.. Second off, be aware of the garbage truck schedules. Try to put it in there a few hours before the garbage truck comes. An example: There was a Mafia hitman named Roy DeMeo. Him and his crew put a body in the dumpster a few days from trash day and hobos began rifling through the trash for food and found the bodies, called the cops. DeMeo didn't get busted, but it certainly doesn't help to have the bodies' presence known by the cops.
Thats a very good point, regarding knowing the pickup schedules of garbage trucks and planning appropriately. A dumpster, imo, though is a sketchy prospect unless you happen to live in a city with few homeless/slackers/junkies or the other assorted types who might find themselves tucked in a shadow of an alleyway. Also the sheer force of the garbage being dumped in conjunction w/ some glass or metal can rip through several layers of polyurathane. The chances that the garbage men will see it (either there or at the dump- if at the dump then they can narrow an investagation to the truck's route) are slight to none but that is a chance.
Just thinking outloud.
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I found this while looking for dog handleing equipment!
I had to laugh through reading every single post lol. I could never imagine finding myself in a position where getting rid of a body would be an issue, however should the obsurd ever occur I am most certian I wouldn't want a witness. Net even my most trusted bestest dysfunctional friend. The less people know... the less people know.
I suppose there are people who ponder this sort of thing but on any given day it never occurs to me who would do such a thing. A really bad example of water disposal should be noted by Lacy Peterson and her killer Scott Peterson. They gave that man the death sentance on completely circumstantial evidence. No forensics simply he was just seen in the same area she was found. Wouldn't the safest thing to do to stay out of prison to begin with is just simply try really hard not to kill anyone? Crime free life isn't that bad, I have been living it for 40 years and you too can even function that way if you try really hard not to have a brain fart.
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these need to be removed and dicared elseware, smash rest of head and face to pulp,slit belly open to let out gases that will swell the abdomen, find a old unused or little used dirt road in the middle of this road dig a hole at least 3ft deep place the body in, cover left overs with cement water cover go home to a good nights sleep....
I say keep the body in the house somewhere (closet, attic, etc.) Out in the open somewhere is where it's going to be "discovered". Chances are if you're not suspect they won't search the house and even if you are suspect chances are they won't search the house. I read something about some dude in New York that had one of his ex-girlfriends in a suitcase in the closet for 15 years.
Kept his GF's body for 15 years? That guy needs to learn when to let it go. There are so many problems w/ keeping a body that it hardly bears mention but, in a nutshell:
1. stench- for months
2. decay shed forensic evidence (like staining and chemical reactions so extreme that they can etch into concrete) 3. on hand incriminating evidence 4. always having something to hide 5. potential psychosis developed from having a kill-reminder always around. and 6. a corporeal link for the potentialy avenging spirit of the deceased- lol
Keeping the body is just not the act of a well balanced individual.
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Simply forge a Death Certificate, and drop the body off at your local cremation center. Fake name matching the fake death cert. with a fake toe tag. You cant disinter a cremated person. Burn the body, evidence, and proof. Its easier than you think!
Thats quite clever- forging the nec. docs for cremation- but I would point out that you need to know a lot of civil servant names that cant be manufacured (excepting in the major metropli) as well as having all the nec. forms to fool them into burning your kill (<--- all hail google image search for those) but most importantly it puts you in the situation of running a con on people who talk to cops like you would talk to the mailman **while having the corpse/damning evidence in the very same room**!!
Sure it would be thrill and, if you were sucsessful, something that would not only make you smile every now and then but would also boost your confidence overall to have gotten over on them ['the system'] so brazenly, but the risk is too high and the consequences too severe for my tastes. I'd sooner take the dice roll of a shallow grave in the woods hoping that wild animals don't unearth it.
Just my opinion though.
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Well, I know from personal experience that its easy to do. Most doctors signatures are unreadable, so forging is easy. And when you have a crematory operator like our old one ( who cremated the authorization papers with the body!)its not like they would notice its forged anyway. They can be lazy...
Well that's different. You had in-roads to an opportune situation for disposal (aside from that whenever someone, anyone besides yourself, is involved it complicates the whole almost geomtricly as the are added) which does make it more attractive but still, no disrespect to the option you, I still would keep the people, those who might be asked to id a picture, out of the picture. It might be a checking for john/jane doe corpses but if the discovery is soon enough the might be security tape of you.
Perhaps if I deeply trusted the cremator... maybe
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There's lots of wild animals in them thar' hills that do a fine job of trash removal. And old mine shafts...
Old mineshafts are a traditional tried-and-true disposal method to be sure. So much so that, should the deceased be of any noteriety, they will be checked for evidence of recent decay if there is a concerted search effort of any sort. Regardless, the chances of the corpse being found are slight even considering the above.
As for wild animals...
Nothing will pique the curiosity of the local PD like having a hiker bring in a human femur. If this should happen cross your fingers that you left no other evidence. Not to mention that a wild-animal-disinterred body really disconcerts the local community- something that is just prudent to avoid.
Wild animals are also not that thourough so if they disinter a body while there is still lots of meat left then chances are it will stay that way and generate a stench that draw attention to the spot.
If you are going to go the 'shallow-grave' route put rocks over the body and pour a gallon or two of milk over it (this creates a bacterial culture w/ airspace to breed in to speed up the decay process) before you cover it with dirt.
I still wouldnt suggest that road though.
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Another good trick for this is to think about the most disturbing thought (other than your crime obviously) before and going into the poly test. Memories or thoughts of extreme sadness are very effective as the effect on the body is to both increase heartrate and release muscle tension. This wasy the tester will have an artificialy high baseline to start off with already when asking the control questions so when he throws the real ones at you, there is less of a spike leading more toward an "inconclusive" reading.
when u get away with it let me know its not as u all think LOL!
Why not just dump it in the ocean and have the sharks eat it
even if you make it look like the person was drunk. they can test if there were alcohol in their blood system before they died.
ok need some answer seem like you may be the one that can help me find away to figur a missing peace of the puzzle out say a person wanted to get rid of them with out leaven a trace right say the frist vic was a young gril her boy friend killed for one reason or anouther . say one 21 is the oldest that was helpen out in that case but they had to rid of it and fast so one makes a call to the ploice and asks for a large some of money what would you do with the body if you didnt want to get caught with it ? and no way to ever find it say they had pigs i was told that pigs would do it with out making a mess or leaven any thing is that true say the sec vic was a mayor of the town one witness say and heard them threaten him again he vanish with out a trace the office that was behind that one was behind telling him to keep his mouth shut so they kill him and clean his truck and ect and dump it out side stay lines now were talking someone who now a cop and has acess to a little more then pig were talk a guy some then around 250 pound 6ft how would your rid of that body and a new paper reporter body? and how can anyone prove any of this with out usen some then that would make them sick or leave dna evedance? and every one joked and said he ran away vanished to anouther place with out a traced changed his name lsft his daughter behind a home and things that ment some then to him tell me why im not saying he would do that or that didnt happen either ? now the new paper report is anouther one that up and vanished she was pretty set here she said she found some then threaten mail come in someone was always trying to get into her office cops telling her to back off .sudenly there was no trace of her vanished no one missed her or was going to belive there was a 3 person missing and 4 they set it up to look like a fishing accident please email me at someonejulie@yahoo.com hope you can help
If you kill someone.Yall people have sad sad lifes.What if that was you gettin chopped up & thrown in the river.Have fun in hell.
Sometimes there is someone in you life circle that can only contribute by being removed. The world is filled with lazy people who don't work and draw government checks. They are a cancer on society. You wouldn't keep trash in your home would you? Why not take the trash out?
[...] The world is filled with lazy people who don't work and draw government checks. They are a cancer on society. You wouldn't keep trash in your home would you? Why not take the trash out?
Someone's been watching too much Fox news.
YOU GUYS ARE FUCKED IN THE HEAD IF YOUR ASKING HOW TO GET RID OF A BODY!!!! HOW WOULD YOU LIKE IT IF SOMEONE TRYING/IS GOING TO KILL YOU WILL ANY WAYS GOD IS SENDING YOU ALL TO HELL!!!!
We humans are just animals.
there not anyone trying to kill me anymore.
I like using lime and water, but forensics and witnesses are my problamatic. It doesn't matter how isolate the area is where the victim suddenly cought his death.... someone always sees you coming or going if you weren't cought in the act. Obviously bringing any attention to yourself is not recommended. That's why I never use a gun for the killing nor a knife. The gun being as its loud (and silencer's don't work as well as movies potrey) Using a knife for the kill is tougher than you think. Fist thing is... if you stab someone they don't die on the first stab, even if you hit a main vain, its about 48 stabs with a lengthy knife. Third If you don't tie them down after the first stab (usually on the second) they fight back and having to fight and stab( plus hope no one hears the screaming) can result in over exertion making it easy for the wounded to escape. And fourth like I just said even if you do tie them down stabbing someone with the force, speed and time is challenging even for the healthiest of men. I want a fast clean kill, something that won't get forensic blood all over me and won't create a sound that the neighbors or officials will look into. Any suggestions? I got the disposal, its the kill I am suggling with. My last kill was to messy!
Interesting and quite comedy article,where i belong there is a story about 2 friends, they accidentaly killed a man, so they bought a coffin then wraped the dead man with white cloth. Then to avoid authorities they carried him (while reciting prayers) loud, then people came helping them in lifting the dead person. They slowly let go the coffin and disappeared between the people ,hence escaping from law.( really funny how they did it)
You realize this was all done for fun. It is something that everyone thinks about. Think about the tv shows we all watch! This was all done in jest. Those of you idiots who are kirking out about this are just ridiculous. Frankie says RELAX
murder murder!! kill kill!!